This could all be much easier and probably end the discussions, if the tire manufacturers would actually stop ripping people off!!! Make longer lasting tires!!! They know what they are doing! They know their tires will last a few 5-6 runs, and I know they know how to make them much more durable! They can easily make tires that last 15-20 runs for mod, and 25-30 for stock...but guess what? less sales- they are getting away with murder!!! Where are the big name racers and influencial people in racing that will take a stand and force these voltures to make much better tires? Why have you remained silent? Who will actually say something?