I am very disappointed at the way Kyosho is marketting their TF-5 cars. The prices they are being sold for are just way over board. The value is just not there. The schocks are very nice, but other than that, lots of plastic, for a $420 SD, and $480 for a BD. Compare a HPI PRO 4 regular or Hara, to the TF-5 SD, and you get way more with the PRO4. What about a HB CYclone WC edition, you get soooooo much more than the Stallion. However, now all the parts should be comming standard with the kit, are showing up as hop ups, but like with the V-One RRR, later versions will include them as standard. Can you belive that a WC V-One RRR is almost $90 cheaper than a TF-5 Stallion? How can this be?