thanks for the quick response, sounds like all the major players are still there. I think I might need a new car, my brother has held on to my old cougar 200 but it needs some parts replaced and I think that could be an issue. stock has rebuildable motors now, thats a change. cool, I'll get my stuff back and maybe head to a meet at keilor or something before I start commiting huge cash and time. I think that would have to be the nearest track to me.