well i drove my 8 for the the first time yesterday and let me tell you i love it. everything that losi said it would do it does. pulls smooth, jumps great, 9 time out of 10 when it rolled it stopped on all fours. etc.... the scary thing is that this is the year for the 8. it will only get better. i can go on and on about the 8 but the guys that have them know what im talking about.