Appreciate the replies guys. Coxy, i've raced stock at Castle Hill a few times in the past. Whilst im not the most experienced, I can get around a car pretty well. I basically "pinched" the camber settings from my trusty Pro 2 & hey presto, hooked up well. The stock shocks provided in the RS4 Rally kit are longer, ie rally spec, so the touring car shorter shocks really through the camber way off. Handles sweet now. I'll seek you out when next at Castle Hill, thinking of a comeback, i forgot how much fun RC is!!