geetoo....that's plenty! thanx! i've had this car since nov of '04. and i must say it is the most difficult HPI car for me to tune. i've had 'em all from the original RS4 up to the pro4. the pro2 (imo) was the fastest of the series. speed seems to escape me with the "4". but forums like this, i'm gaining valuable info daily. so i'm getting that much faster with the car. i had a small mod i wanna try at my local carpet track. if this don't work then i'm sunk!