trust your spinning tires no matter what, even on pavement. although i havent seen it but like i said......you can watch a r/c car go 35 and be like "wow thats fast thats like 45mph!!" then a car drives by doing 30-40 mph (which looks quite slow might i add) then youll see how fast (or slow) your truck or car is goin. ubt i think we are gtting off topic, we are kind of dragging the threads from their original purpose so if youd like to make our own 'private' thread for beating on each other with then go ahead