Thanks alot of the help. I'd want more of outdoors/bashing so I guess the mini-z is out of my choice. Now its left to the 3. You mentioned the mini inferno's handling being different .. different as in more difficult or easier to control? I really don't know which to choose man .. but from the video I've seen, the cen mini madness really looks like just what i want. Is there anyone who tried the mini madness before? I think I'll do a search on the mini madness and see what people feel about it.