Guys, look for the cars around the beginning of January, just as ESPO said, as well as RALPH BURCH? Now, i'm not sure what better sources you could get then that. I spoke with Ralph this evening and that was the info I was given. Obviously myself and espo have heard the same information from the same source so don't be so quick to disregard what he might have to say. Its not like ESPO was trying to play games with you Dawgmeat so I say lighten up a little bit, eh?