Bill, I probaly wont be seeing you any time soon, youll be too busy building those new kits!! I really have to get over to Stockton soon its been too long since racing there. At Gilroy they have been running stock and 19 turn in the same heats, but more stock than 19 turn. I wish we could get a strong, steady 12th scale group racing there. Hope to see you soon, Happy Thanksgiving. Big Bill