don't know I'll ask him as he is sitting 20 feet away. but I'm going to ahve to charge a $1 for that kind of info. and someone at kyosho needs to call cyrul and tell him I can take pictures ...joel.... he asked me not to since the car that he is running is still not the final car it's just an interm car that they are using. but it is a cool looking car with josh's touches. I think it's the ke one shaft with some other josh parts on it. maybe bokkta will let me post the pictures of his SOB car!