Originally Posted by fast-ho-cars
just saw it listed at towerhobbies at $279 (order pending)
the reflex 12 which to me still appears to be more trick is listed at $217 but still is on order since last year
The Black Widow is better than the Reflex 12. There were some odd problems with the Reflex that have all been addressed in the Widow. It will be an awesome 1/12th car.