I used a copper 90degree bend to get it goign down to the second header into the pipe. I set my Mugen M12 which runs great at 3 out on the low end and 4 on the high end, mid flush and it was coming in with the regular pipe at about 240-245 on that day. I then put that pipe combo on and had to tune the engine to 4 1/2 out on low and 5 3/4 on high, with the mid 1/4 righer to get it from overheating. It was coming in at 310 with my normal settings. I was able to drive it around for about 9 min and bring it in at about 260. I guess I could play with plugs and stuff but I was told it is better to get it on the pipe quicker then running it in the header. Give it a try though