Originally Posted by Hebiki

hey ray.. i know what you mean. but even though it may take hours.. as long as you do them as close as you can ... you can see solid results. all my packs went from IR of 50..and now they constantly hover around mid 20s. average voltage went up about .1x for each pack. as for brand new packs. my newest packs stay between 25-35IR (since i dont use them as much as my practice packs)