I can send you a pic of the car but the car is not done yet. I don't have the speedo or the receiver in the car. But I have 99 percent of it completed other than the electronics and when I sit the electronics in there with a battery and motor and the rear shock collars all the way up its right around 17mm. I'm using a -4 rear vision shock tower, and the alloy shock tops. I did replace the shock bottom eyelets with the shortest xray ones so I don't have to pop off the balls everytime I rebuild the shocks. But the shock bottoms are currently shorter than the stock ones after I cut them. I'm using the stock shock cup and black aerox rear springs. The new rear pill system. aluminum rear hubs all the good stuff. Just an FYI I have been building rc cars for 35 years so I know what I'm doing. I just don't understand even with the stock rear tower and stock ball cups and the kit springs I don't see a way to get 13mm ride height. If I put the stock rear tower on I could maybe get to 14 but I see setup sheets out there that say 13 with nothing crazy going on. Its just odd to me.