Just a note for OffRoad Junkie and others ... The Double Down series was never meant to be a ROAR legal motor or compared to it. Was developed around the time that drag racing and "outlaw" classes for drag racing were being done back in the 2021/2022 time frame. While it may really loosely look like other Trinity motors, its a completely different design from ROAR based Trinity motors. About the only thing that compares is the "17.5 winds".....