I was originally going to follow up in the product comparison thread from last year https://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-e...l#post16044537

I finally made it to a track in 2024, PDX RC Underground. I had replaced all my banded Trinity Slot Machine Certified motors with Fantom Helix RS Works. My son was still running HW G4s that I rebuilt giving the “works” treatment with ceramic bearings and titanium screws and timing set with load master. The Fantom Helix RS Works noticeably pulled on the HW G4 on back straightaway. Both 17.5T motors in B6.4s geared the same.