Like I said before Orion has been testing the new motor at SoCal Raceway for a while now. Novak has also begun testing their brushless at the track. Just yesterday I saw the Novak motor in action. As of right now the Orion seems like it blows the Novak away. Maybe Novak is still having speed control problems, but you'd think that in 3 years they'd have made better progress. It looks about as fast as a 19 turn.