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Old 07-02-2023 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by old_dude
There are some GT12 tracks that allow either motor to be used. You are correct that the gearing has to change and by a lot. This is what I tell people (and it is from testing) All of our motors are fixed timing during a test. Torque is our magic number and every fixed timing motor has peak torque at stall and zero torque at max rpm. That is why peak power is at the center of the rpm range. The motors stator design and rotor strength cause a designed in torque peak. Note the stator design. When I test a motor I find that very low timing shows that max initial torque. As you advance the timing you will get to a spot where that number starts to drop. The magic number in timing is getting the peak rpm up without hurting that initial torque thus generating the best power number and efficiency. I tell anyone using a acceleration dyno (of any brand) that the first second of the pull will tell you all you need to know. Now not being a electrical motor engineer I can only offer some conjecture, the non magnetic screws do affect the field and that is seen in the rpm boost. Team Scream noted that no screws in the stator and no slot for them made a huge difference in that field (it was computer modeled) their motors of that design and others that copied it, time completely different.
Now what does that have to do with the USGT TOUR spec motor. That higher power point is too high to be usable it appears. Gearing low moves the working rpm up out of the torque range. It is like trying to make a diesel rev at 8k. Nothing much there when a load hits. That part is my opinion on why but it based on my torque curve findings on the affect of timing.
Maybe I will see the same thing on screws. Interesting test for sure..
The point is that the non magnetic screws don't affect the field, and the stock ferrite ones do (in a negative way).

The first part on a dyno pull is largely noise as the sampling rate (at least on the minipro) is too low.
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