Well I guess its not a true budget motor. Like what, 80 bucks? I think I paid 90 something for the RR. Ive made several purchases from Ron and have talked to him in person and on the phone a couple times. He's very accommodating. Anyways, at our track its usually Motiv, S+, and Revtecs.. all 100+$. Some guys have never heard of Surpass which surprised me a little. I guess I meant a lesser known company? Maybe its not but in my area it is.