So ... ChadoSan is still right then, in that a internal limiters do not affect actual uptravel if I am reading the responses correctly. Position though as the diagram is showing is affected by internal limiters.

I am curious with the fact that some of the later setups were using the modified 1.5 x 2 hole piston for front and rear on the vehicle, what they end up going with on the car? 2.0s or maybe something new?