Yeah, so that's why I'm asking....... I'm wondering if you guys are just holding on to them as old collectibles, spares or what? My friend is very capable of re-pinching, replacing bearings, Rods, etc.... He's already done a few dozen engines for people. The issue is, it doesn't seem like people are selling off old engines they have laying around. I posted the other thread "Looking for worn out .21 engines" because he's looking for used engines to mess with, rebuild and re-sell to guys looking to get into the hobby on a budget. If anyone has anything for sale, go ahead and PM me or reply to my other thread.