Reporting back. I finally got to try a dbx body. This was the ultra light, and compared to the Turismo ultralight, it had more rotation and was slightly more "edgy". Mounted 4mm forward and I raised the wing 2mm. Someone at the track got a baybee and said it was too stable for them. That means it is next on my list to try after the lsot I just got. That will take me through the end of rc racing until fall. Golf season is almost here!