So after running a D8 2000KV for a year now, I have to say it works well, comparable to the LRP Dynamic8, and Tekin T8 1st gen. But in the long run, this is a fairly open motor, and cleaning it and the rate that it is able to ingest dirt and debris in the long run, is not worth it to me. Maybe for an indoor carpet venue. And again, Trinities support is lacking. Time to move on.