I've had one Orion engine, the 24, and it was horrible. It never ran right for me, and I wasn't a newb. I've also seen lots of those Cody King engines on sale with 1-2 gallons over the years. I.e. there's possibly/probably an issue with Orion there if anything..(could also just be that they tune totally differently from what I and other people were used to..)