Thanks for the advice guys. When i get them all back (and there isn't a storm blowing outside!) I'll run them again and report back. I have to say, in the short time i had with them i far prefer the Tiken to the CC. Like compering fresh, soft white bread with butter with old crusty french bread with sand in it. Both do the job but the CC was so cogy. Far more adjustment on the RX8, and from your phone too! Nice. You can interface with it without pulling ur RX out as well! Shame it not waterproof and doesn't have auto lipo detection or it would be perfect.