Any pics? Do the arms move freely with no shocks attached? I'm running Joe's setup which I believe has more droop then Lutz's and I'm not having any problems. I measure my shock length with car on a stand, shocks attached and no wheels from eye (middle) of shock tower mounting screw to eye (middle) of arm shock mounting screw. They both have dimples for calipers to kind of set in. I use the droop screws to adjust the shock length.