I just got the 24K certified and compared to my Fandom IonV5 (I know, not a true D4), the Fandom seems to have more torque, but the 24K has more top end and runs a lot cooler. Both motors were geared 72/28 and 55deg of timing. This was just testing the two motors in my B5M up and down the street. The real test will come on the track hopefully tomorrow.