Thanks for the link. The local track has moved, and 1/12 has been dead for years there. The new locale and track is sparking interest, and 1/12 seems to be coming back. Last sat was first race, only 4 of us there and I finished 2nd.. so I will ask the guy who beat me My tires worked great, there's just nothing to identify the fronts. The guy who beat me is a good roadie and old buddy, also sold me my car. I will ask him as well as pester some of the oval dudes.