I agree...I think he's moved on from the thread

But I was going to toss in earlier that nitro is beyond the capability of a new driver...tuning those is a headache. It was for me at least. I got so sick of it that I abandoned the hobby ten years ago and recently came back to find that ebuggy was in existence (LIPO wasn't around last time I was into this). I love what LIPOs have done for the hobby. Also...I also would have to agree that a used RTR from a reputable source is the way to go (and get a model that's used by most of the locals).