Tekin not what it use to be? I'd love to fly out to some of these tracks and actually race with some of you guys and see what problems you guys experience. Maybe I could help get to the bottom of something you have an issue with. While the HW is a great speedo I have yet to lose a race because someone had a better speedo or motor. Every motor company you have mentioned has good motors. One isn't better than the other IMO. Winners of the Cactus, OCRC stock nats, and 2nd and 3rd in the pro class at the OCRC stock Nats run at my local track so it's always a nationals at club races.