Originally Posted by
HugoW
Hi Matthias,
It was carpet, mix of various types, and I just read on the Dutch rc forum an F1 drifer had a hard time finding rear grip, too. While he had griprolls with the same car on 'competition'-carpet. So basically, my tire choice was bad. Should have used M-grips in the rear, it seems the S's don't work on carpet, especially not on this carpet.
Ground clearance was minimal, arms level with the chassis bottom. I cannot lower the front anymore without weighing it down or cutting springs.
Dampers with 2 holes in the rear, 3 in the front. Kit oil, no clue still.
Springs blue in the rear, yellow front.
Hugo
Hi Hugo,
thatīs good news!
On very few carpets, the M-Grip performs better than the S-grip, that was my opinion so far, too. Nowadays I tend to say, the S-grip is always best, when the side wall is glued. The M-grip has a stiffer compound, and can take the side forces better without tucking under so early. I think so, because in the times I didnīt glue the walls, I also used on carpet the Mīs instead of the Sī, because they gave me stability in the corners. What I never understood: With the Mīs I couldnīt accelerate in a straight line from zero, they lacked a bit traction, while the S-Grips tracked damn straight and got better acceleration, but lacked stability in the corners.
Your ground glearance seems o.k.
Go softer with the springs, like red front, yellow rear, to find traction.
Try the M-grips on your carpet in rear and compare to the S-grips. Before using both, cyano the side walls all the way up until they touch already the upper end of the outer profil block.
Use tire sauce, full rear, half front for the start.
Try 3 hole pistons in rear, keep the 400 kit oil for the moment.
Make your own axle weights like Joel (rccartipps) for his daughter some pages back, using tire balancing weights (5 to 10gr). Bend them and glue them on the knuckle at the bearing area. (I hope this is not forbidden in your cup).
If you still lacking grip, try to run a soft stabi front, and none in the rear.
On a very old carpet on a very small track I went one time to red springs rear and yellow front to find traction. (Backup solution.
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And lay the rear shocks completely in on the upper end.
And make sure, that the rear diff is not too strong, when the grip is very low.
It shouldnīt be more tight then the kit diff with AW grease for the start.
The M06 needs some more testing time in the beginning Iīd say, but is also consistent to the same track condition. Make good notes on a setup sheet of all little adjustments. If you come back to the same track, the setup will work again. Take your time and think about this thread. Thereīs always a solution for the problem out here!
I also have the new M05Pro V2, but I can say, that it needs some test time too.
I had a lot of problems to get it going on carpet, because the rear end was totally loose, you couldnīt even roll through a curve with half throttle, it spin out 10 times more than a RWD Mini. Surprisingly, the first lap the car was driveable, until the tires build up real grip. Reason was the S-Grip problem again. Since I glued the side walls and on the M05 even more up into the first profile block (1/3rd), it is a new car.
From my impression, many racers gave up on the M06 quite early in 2011,
because they were too much in love with the driving style of their FWDīs and lack of success. But later on, some single guys showed up with very good results using an M06, and on some races they took the FWDīs 0,5 s or more per lap.
So, thereīs a kind of rebirth for the M06 in some areas, which is nice.
I wish you success,
and let us know your experiences!
Br,
Matthias