Originally Posted by Cinnabun

Motor kV does, when you're limited to gearing. LL is close to the limit on gearing.

My flux lost MPH when I switched to the 1717, using the same voltage and same gearing. Granted it has insane power now, but the top speed is definitely not the same.

My 1717 will pull 25/44 gearing with the high speed idler like it's free spinning. The motor is barely warm after a full battery pack of bashing through thick grass, dirt and speed runs/backflips on asphalt.