1/8 e-truggy's are the king of bashers. I work in a hobby store and have a customer that has owned just about everything. His group of friends like the HPI vorza and stay away from the trophy line. There tekno d8t and et48 are the preferred toys on 6s. Tons of power, stable, and can take a serious beating. He's even got the aluminum venter drive shafts in the et48 and they hold up. The HPI trophy line is OK but not nearly as good as the d8/vorza cars.