hey thanks for your help guys. I understand that your tune will most likely not work for me. However I was un aware of the idle gap being so crucial and also so small. I did set it to about 1mm but maybe ill try smaller from now on. and plugs are nice and brownish in color. (def not lean) however my last plug to fowl the wire looked a little distorted right at the end almost like when you fowl a plug from being lean. I know the car is not lean and I cannot get it to idle smooth either. it loads up sitting for more than 5 seconds so im betting my idle was to high hence lsn not seeming to do much? I am running vp 25% with 9% oil if that matters anymore ha ha