It will all depend on your software. I tried it quickly with a HW 3.1 and an R10 and the Orion box and the HW box and regardless of the combination I got a please update your software error. I tried updating the software in the Orion box but the HW software offered no updates. I quit at that point and decided I was glad to be running all HW stuff. It always works right and I agree Bob above about the value.