I also find it odd that it takes "max timing" to get these motors to really wake up. The Tekin 25.5 that im running now has no real power after 20 deg. Im actually running 15 on it now. I have the same if not more top speed than the guys running Novaks, all with lower gearing and less heat than I used to have with the Novak. I still have it in the tool box for when I get a chance to make a USVTA race and not ROAR rules.