just to chime in... we run the Tamiya 18T TBLM01/TBLE01 combo against Tamiya Lightly Tuned motors (open ESC) locally... so far no clear winner between the two (for 2 seasons, now on our 3rd). Some races are won by the BL combo... some others won by the LT. The pretty much look like they're on equal speed/pace on the back straight...