Todd I'm not bashing any of the factories. If My statements are difficult to understand that was not my meaning. All I am trying to say is that all these new engines on the market are just more and more product that has no demand. I'm not insinuating that any of them are bad. Actually I know for a fact that most of them are really good engines it's just that the Nitro RC market does not need anymore $200 good engines. There is enough of them dying a slow death already. You should know exactly what I'm talking about and how hard it is to move a product when there are 40 others already like it. The only way it works is if you make it allot better or allot cheaper but there are issues with that also. If its allot better and twice the price it's not selling. If its allot cheaper and a piece of junk it's not selling either. It needs to be good and cheap or better and the same price (reds, FX) to be successful. I am in no way attacking Atomic Engines. I just see it as another drop of water in an ocean.