I have the Toro and so far I really like it, I paid like $90 for it and the programmer shipped. I haven't had a single problem with it. Mine does have posts on it to solder to, unlike the pic on the first page of this thread that just shows the solder holes in the pc board. The fan it comes with is loud as hell though, but It doesn't matter to me as long as it works and can always be swapped with another fan if you wish. It can also be shut off from your radio by just holding the brakes down for 8 seconds, nice feature.