well guys i installed he dubro ends on my car vitually no slop only slop was in the c hubs and and the arms so just a bit the ends need worked in a bit yet but it is SUPER consistent, ran that with the jconcepts finisher body and wing didnt cut the body to the lines made it as tall as possible drove really easy compared to the proline bull dog or vortex i ran that with the jconcepts wing yet again full 3/8 above the first cut line so its level with the sides drove really consistence and easy super awesome got 2nd to a sponsored guy do to traffic, and i started 4th good night overall need new rear tires, which are coming in wed but my old ones are bald so its needed