i picked up an 12l4 1 month ago and for my second race, was able to set TQ. This car worked every on the track and is box stock with a stock setup. need to work a little to get to track record, but they just change the track this week, so it is all a new for everyone.
This is my first 12th scale, so i would have to say that the 12l4 out of the box is not too shabby