Originally Posted by mxr17

Yep, but he is not asking about a btt but a keep off.
I have a plus 4btts and I hated it, no torque, no speed, very flat engine.
I now tested a keep off 4 and even tho they share specs, it is a completely different engine, torque is now present, speed is there and the engine is exiting to drive, plus it idles like a dream, I would rather get the keep off 4 but as I always say, this is only my opinion.