Wow . I guess we agree to disagree. Yes you did give me the starting setup . Absolutely ! NOW , Both me and my partner were running the 60d tire . Not sure if the cataracts got in the way but thats how it was . Also I was running a red dot silver can . I didnt know there was another kind . I also was running docs motor because YOU told me where to buy good silver can motors. YOU didnt want to sell to me so I went his way . They were both TCS LEGAL versions from him . I also dont really care what Mr.White had to say . I wish you all would have tested our stuff then this wouldnt be an issue . Motors were within rpm limits for tamiya. I also never got upset at anything at that particular time cause racing is a calming time for me . So again I apologise for the ass comment. Now i hope if danny reads this he might get an idea why his onroad struggles so much to be consistent .