No flames, here, all good points. I have a question for you, do you allow a guy that comes to a LAN party with a celeron 450 and a TNT1 card compete with a guy with a Athlon64 3500 with a geforce 6800 ultra? I'm not sure what I'm getting at here, but I think the question requires you to be reasonable. What about a guy with a basic 6800 vs a 6800 Ultra? Up to a point, FPS makes a difference. And when the new faster card comes out? Do you not let him play? It's all shades of gray, nothing is black and white. Quake 3 was awesome, in that you could set the handicap to compensate for better players. That made for some good even gaming. I think the big gaming events all have the same computers already there, you can change your control config, but that's it.

What did they do with auto racing when fuel injection was intoduced? I don't know, I'm not that old, but I'm sure it was about the same thing. The carburator guys probably complained that it's not fair and felt like thier skills at tuning were going to become useless, the fuelie guys probably complained that carburators are "obsolete" and F.I. should be allowed (no flames, on the obsolete usage please). It was only a few years ago that motorcycles adopted F.I., strange.

I'm all for enforcing the rules, but if 27T brushed motor is the only thing that can be used for stock, then I'm forced to buy what I consider is outdated, maintenence prone technology or I can't play. It's a conundrum. I already made that decision about Trackside and I am fully prepared to make the same decision if that's what MARCCA decides. I know people who are waiting to turn that last bit of copper off thier comm before they go brushless.

Oh, I also suggested a spec class before, but nobody was interested. Everybody seems to want to have some little secret they think will help them out. I'm all for having the hardware exactly the same. I just have a different idea of what the standard hardware should be.

I would also suggest that the truck classes actually make pretty good sense. My philosophy is that if you show up with some new fancy thing and start winning all the time, maybe you should consider moving up a class. At the same time, if you have the latest greatest technology and never win a race, you're probably just fine. I think I won one race at MARCCA, ever! Trucks level 2, I moved to 3 then 4 and haven't won a race since.

The problem with on-road is that there are like 15 different types of cars. and there's simply not enough room to have every combination of rubber, foam, 4 cell, 6 cell, mini, micro, 1/10, 1/12, F1, Stock, Mod, 19T, ect. Within F1 alone you have 4 combinations. So you have to make compromises within the popular classes. Or turn people away.

I'm no where near the top guys in 1/12 so I don't see what the problem is. If Vang and Stan and Shane are kicking my ass with 27T stock motors, what's the problem? If and when (I don't think it'll happen) I get to the point where I am obviously winning races because I have a faster car, I'll concede.

I know of three people with 4300 1/12 scale, if we are not allowed to run, at least in our own class, that will truely be sad. I got back in this hobby partly because of brushless. I will not buy into brushed. If I have to wait another 5 years, that's what I'll do.

And to the "high level" racers, since a used 1/12 scale and brushed set-up is so "cheap", just get another car for Trackside or wherever. Don't penalize me because you are so dedicated.

I think it is good to have a honest, open discussion and we will only move forward by doing so. I do think a good slap in the face and a restructure is a good thing every once in a while.

And remember this is a non-profit CLUB for fun, we are just big kids playing with little toy cars. I don't go to Trackside for more than one reason. And, ah, let's try to keep this within people who actually come and race at MARCCA consistantly.

Wow, that was almost like a term paper! Yuck!