sure ignore someone that actually raced it on outdoor 8th scale low bite tracks. And listen to the guy who hasnt, lol. Or you can look at the resle value of the truck. anything that is good and popular will hold its value. What does that say about the $100-$150 FT sc10 4x4 with upgrades being sold here? The sc10 4x4 has its place. It is very nice indoors. It does not require a massive motor and will likely not puff your packs. It is by far the cheapest to buy used and run. Some people even still use 540 2 pole motors in them, because they can. The heavier tekno and scte will work your packs and electronics harder. I own an sc10, b4 and a t4, so its not like i hate AE. In fact, I am a big supporter of theirs, but I wont lie or delude myself in to believeing the sc4x4 is better than it is. I spent 6 months trying to make mine work outdoors and yet my b4 consistently pulled laps that were 8-9 seconds faster. When a 4x4 on an 8th scale track cant keep up with a b4, that is not a real selling point.