i think you need to play with settings for the right feel. I started with cavs base setup and raz's shock package and ended up where I did. I dont think anyone here is running the shorty all the way back, but I am and I like it. you just have to try things. I feel like tires are huge for the on/off power steering. I was using the tires everyone else was and hated, so I just started run every tires in my box till I found what I wanted. I wanted my rear to drift a little in the corners then square up under power. I finally got what I wanted out of my car, now to work on my driving.