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Old 02-07-2013, 05:47 AM   #5165
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Originally Posted by mxgregg View Post
How is the sport kit. Does it run ok out of the box? I'm just moving from dirt to onroad.
Report from Mustafa Alp on his race... He won the race with the sport.. he could have actually wn the mod too if he entered the race

parts suggestions and tips inside ....

have fun...


We had first round of Cyprian Nationals on 3-4th of February on famous Team NCRC track. There were two categories to be run, modified and pro stock.
As I was waiting for the new ERYX car, I didn't want to build another TE, instead I wanted to test 411 sport, cheaper version of his brother. Building went fine except camberlink balljoints, which were not strong enough to penetrate in composite bulkhead clamps, even though I had done leaching with a steel screw. Additionally I used aluminum front solid axle instead of the standart composite one.

I wanted to enter to the stock category, which I quite like the idea of using same equipment and wanted to try it for the first time. I installed a Savox 1251 servo, and sanwa receiver to the car. Speedo was HW Justock and motor was MMM 13.5, with Ride 28 handout tires. A racecar which is really cheap in price and also fast.

I went to the track on Friday to do some free practise testing. First thing I noticed that without anti roll bars, car was too twitchy to drive. I installed 1.4 front and 1.2 rear anti roll bars from my spares, and car was much better. Then I did the new steering modification that provides some bump steer which also helped car a lot to smoothen in corners. At the end of the day I had tested so much things that I cannot remember the order...

Saturday morning we still had some more free practise and I had more chance to test stuff. At the end of the free practise I ended up something really close to the basic setup of the new ERYX 2.0 without noticing. At least I realised I didnt go to wrong direction When first of the six round-practise started I had a car which felt OK, traction hadnt come up yet.
In first 2 practises I had the lead by a small gap over Niyazi, and with 3rd round of practise, grip went a lot higher. This worked for me and I had a huge advantage over other drivers because I had found a good setup that I can push to %100 maximum hard without any traction rolls. Friends were joking about my car that I should feel happy that car didn't melt LOL. Car was so amusing to drive. At the end of the practise session I had the fastest 3 consecutive lap time on the track, including modifieds.

On saturday evening we had first round of the qualifiers. I was driving nice and calm until camberlink came off on 6th lap. Hmm, not a good start. Hayırlısı. Later I found out that balljoint screw I used wasnt long enough to hold the part on the plastic bulkhead clamp, after adding more shims.

Sunday morning we had 2nd round of 5 qualifiers. Car was OK but I was not. With terrible driving and especially having problems lapping the trafic, I eventually made a huge crash to the wood with only popping out a steering link joint. Car is super durable. Marshall put it back on but I lost 17 seconds, still I managed to be 3rd on that round.

3rd qual, I put less aggressive additive, so car was slower but more easy to drive. I had to start from back at start, so from first lap I had traffic. I lost some time but fortunately had TQ run this time, with a margin of 4 seconds over Niyazi.

4th qual, I put lot more aggressive additive and increased steering to be full throttle this time. Boom! TQ with 22 laps in 5:04, a result that modified drivers couldnt achieve. Now everything is under control.

5th qual, with really consistent driving and having no problems with traffic, I bettered my time with 22 laps 5:00.002 and again TQ, a superb result for a half priced FRP chassis car.

Arman Maralan, another Serpent driver also raced with 411 sport and qualified 3rd! Wonderful results...

Finals started, and I easily cruised to the victory in first two finals with lapping every other car at least once, and again having faster results than modified finals. In 3rd run I wanted to test a very different setup, which was unsuccessful but gave me some ideas Arman had speedo issues in 3rd final which eliminated his chance for a podium finish, resulting a little disappointing 4th.

at the end, I had this setup
shocks 450 front 400 rear oil, with springs black front, grey rear
downstops 7 front 4.5 rear
camber 1 front 1.8 rear
front 1 toe out
rear diff 2000
shock mount front lowest, rear 2nd hole from lowest.
bump steer setup: put 4mm shims under steering link inner joint
rear camberlink longest, with 4.5mm shim inside 3mm outside.
front camberlink 5.5mm shim inside.
front tire wall glued
protoform ltc-r regular weight body
-%30 steering expo
%85 Dual rate

every other stuff I didnt mention is standart.

full results:[1]=arv&dFi=ncrc&dId[E]=10835

I want to thank Team Serpent and Serdar Aytemiz(Evilhobbyshop) for support, and all Team Ncrc family for hosting this wonderful race.

My next race is on 24th of February at famous Bumod track in Bursa, Turkish Touring Series Round 1. See you!
Serdar Aytemiz

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