I'm pretty sure it's not my solder joints I have to do a lot of soldering at work I'm really leaning towards esc internals at this point it's the only thing I can think of that would affect both motors. I'm not sure what kind of voltage I should be getting phase to phase out of the esc but when given throttle I'm only getting around 200mV right now. My thoughts are its getting low voltage from esc which is causing my issues. Iv seen similar things happen in large 3 phase motors at work. Overheating low torque and general assing up. I'm not sure how brushless differs from brushed in this matter but that's all else I can come up with.