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Old 09-29-2012, 12:52 AM
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some Awesome points !!!

case in point, we had a local race here in California
"Gas Champs"
and many of the bigger names show up.....
there were 3 classes, "Sportsman" - "Intermediate" - "Expert"
out of some not "Totaly Sure" but 197 to 200 entries
57 were Intermediate and Expert.
and can figure the math for the "Sprotsman".....

but i seen about 20 guys in there and bout 7 from my local track
Revelation Raceway, that were running "Sportsman" BUT !!!!
they "Can Run very Fast Intermediate and lower Expert times" !!!

i felt kinda bad for the True Sportsman Guys(and Gals)
that had to put up with the likes of the sandbaggers in that class?
"Locally" i am up there with the expert/Pro times and we usually have a
"Amature/Expert Class" i may not be the fastest gun on the track but
sure can hold my own !!! and many of these guys can easily keep up with me!
i couldnt even imagine the flak i would get if i had run "Sportsman"...LOL
a couple i had "Respect for".......Not Anymore.........

but i think it should not matter how much you have invested?
or how tricked out your equipment is?
but based on "Skill Level"
but it is funny how some sportsman guys really "Boast" about being "Sponsored" but never really "Prove a thing" for there Contrabution
to the Sport? really only interested in getting something for "Nothing"
(which almost discribes 95% of drivers at my track!) which is "Sad"
(never help Promote?,never Help Anyone?,and generaly make fun of People)

have to agree with most on the dropping of some classes, but not Entirely?
some events a "Sportsman" class would be Helpful.....but Noted sandbaggers
should be "Moved Up as the director sees fit"...."Durning the event" !!!
others you have 2 choices "Open" or "Expert".......
thats how it used to be???
now there is Beginner-Novice-Intermediate-Amature-Expert-Pro...!?!?!?!?!?!
but the R/C racers of "Now" are pretty much "Self-Absorbed"
not like back in the day? oh sure there were those that Sandbagged!!..LOL
but after the Flogging ...LOL they usually steped up...
nowdays, there just out for there who knows what is on there mind?

"Succsess without Honor is like an Unseasoned Dish,may satisfy your Hunger? but will not Taste good".............

but i supose these "Sandbaggers of Today" i guess think it taste pretty good !!!.......LOL

for me i could care less what they run, they want to run beginner so what?
while there in the Beginner/Sportsman A..oh well?...keeps the sandbaggers
out of my "Class" be dodging them anyways!!
but we all know who really won! those Guys and Gals
2 laps back and 4th on down!!
except Chad Grana "Ironicly" he's the only one of a few that was a "Sportsman" just Reciently stepping up from Novice !!!!

but while i am running in a Pro main may not make "Podium" !!
might be "Dead Last" !!...LOL
but i am in the "Expert-Open-Pro" A-Mains"
and have the "Respect from my Peers"

all i know i am a good person, and help others and do what i can to help
those in the hobby,

but where i feel bad, is the people who are those "True Sportsman"
the guys and gals that are not quite there in skill level? but try Hard!
then to see guys with the "Ability" and "Skill" to prey on a easy Win.....


(i think there was more but only ones i could find for the list of the Gas Champs)
ALLOT of people here i "Do Not Know"
a few i do know,
that do fit in the true sportsman level...(they did a killer job !!)
but figured i'd post all the classes in general...

but the sandbaggers fair share of them......LOL
man they run "Expert Times"......LOL
wont even bother pointing out..LOL
let everyone else decide...LOL
but funny? some of the "Baggers Bombed Out"...LOL
Ha? Kama i guess....

but out of 197 entries (maybe there was more?)
around 57 of those were Intermediate and Expert
the rest !!!!! ......well no need to do the math....

Hayes Gary 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Hayes Gary 1/8 sportsman Buggy
Flores Marvin 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Dickinson Sean 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Cvengros Steve 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Childers Bryan 1/8 sportsman Truck
Hammond Sean 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Wright Vareck 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Wright Verek 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Northern Kenny 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Northern Kenny 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Perez Hector 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Dydasco Dave 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Vasquez Mario Jr. 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Mojanovski Tony 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Keblis Greg 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Guerrero Victor 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Grbavac Tim 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Allen Chris 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Salinas Jason 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Ayala Eddie 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Ayala Eddie 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Dogg Rob 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Dogg Rob 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Cuz'n Andy 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Arroyo Jerry 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Flores Marvin 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Gutierrez Rodney 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Lomeli Steve 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Lomeli Steve 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Stockman Travis 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Maxwell Weller 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Hall Harley 1/8 Sportsman Buggy (Harley good Job !!)
Grana Chad 1/8 Sportsman Buggy (Good run Bro! Well Deserved!!)
Crenshaw Les 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Schneider Robert 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Coffman Wayne 1/8 Sportsman Buggy (good Job Wayne !)
Coffman Wayne 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Gutierrez Rodney 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Wright Cary 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Lagomarsino Frank 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Lagomarsino Frank 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Whitley Rod 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Catania Rafael 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Weber Randy 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Weber Randy 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Hamilton Bobby 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Davis Ryan 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Baker Skye 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Steele Kory 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Steele Kory 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Henry Keith 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Henry Keith 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Smalls Anthony 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Smalls Anthony 1/8 Sportsman Buggy
Burkett Mort 1/8 Sportsman Truck
Murphy Kevin 1/Sportsman Truck
Doetzer Jeff 1/8 Sportsman Truck



Intermediate Class:
(again "Maybe" one or 2 more? but all i could find?)
these guys ROCK !!!!!! many reciently "Stepped up" !!
and Did GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!

Ward Michael 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Ward Michael 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Flores Danny 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Flores Danny 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Clift Bobby 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Clift Bobby 1/8 Intermediate
Jackson Dane 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Jackson Dane 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Pendygraft Jeff 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Pendygraft Jeff 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Wickham Robert 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Laret Eddie 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Marrale Chris 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Pitruzzello Joe 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Hoffman Dillon 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Sears Troy 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Sears Troy 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Acero Mike 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Lopez Lee 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Arluck James 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Arluck James 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Kiti Pierre 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Atonga Gil 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Steele Fred 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Steele Fred 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Perez Miguel 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Sandate DJ 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Hernandez Johnathan 1/8 Intermediate Truck
Harris Steve 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Guzman Jose 1/8 Intermediate Buggy
Guzman Jose 1/8 Intermediate Truck




Expert Class:

Gaffney Sean 1/8 Expert Buggy
Gaffney Sean 1/8 Expert Truck
Tessman Ty EXpert Buggy
Tessman Ty Expert Ttuck
Robbers Jesse 1/8 Expert Buggy
Hara Atushi Expert Buggy
Hara Atushi Expert Truck
Moller Drew 1/8 Expert Truck
Moller Drew 1/8 Expert Buggy
Hill Edward Ryan Intermediate
Hill Edward Ryan Expert
Michael Lopez 1/8 Expert Buggy
Gaines John 1/8 Exp Truck
Gaines John 1/8 Expert Buggy
Drake Adam 1/8 Expert Buggy
Drake Adam 1/8 Expert Truck
Drake Rhonda 1/8 Expert Buggy
Drake Rhonda 1/8 Expert Truck
McLain Paul 1/8 Expert Truck
Stees Tanner 1/8 Expert Buggy
Stees Tanner 1/8 Expert Truck
McGlothlin Greg 1/8 Expert Buggy
Lutz Ryan 1/8 Expert Buggy
Lutz Ryan 1/8 Expert Truck
Peck Casey 1/8 Expert Buggy
Peck Casey 1/8 Expert Truck
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